emulgent:

oldwayout:

emulgent:

The only acceptable reason to have kids is that you want to nurture and care for another being.

That’s it. That’s all of the good reasons.

Not because you want someone to take care of you on your old age, not because you want them to take on a certain career. None of that. To have such expectations of a child makes it unethical to have one imo, it lays the foundation for emotional blackmail; as in, ‘I brought you into this world and raised you, had you for this reason so give me that happiness’. No one owes you anything for the things you do out of your own will for your own sake, not even your children

This is an extremely Western capitalist ideology. Actually in a lot of the world, having children is the rite of passage that makes you an adult because the household needs children to run and children are an intrinsic good. In a lot of the world, ethics isn’t based on an urban non-imposition mandate, but on reciprocal obligations. Under a reciprocal ethics system, if you bring a child into the world, yes, they are obligated to take care of you when you age (provided you fulfilled your obligation to take care of them). That’s not unethical, it just isn’t financially advisable under industrial capitalism to have children, so it has a mystic sense of giving attached to it. But that’s not foundational to ethics.

Ethnocentric post, OP

Lmfao, ethnocentric. I come from one of the other parts of the worlds you’re talking about. And the post comes of the vast fucking mental anguish that is a product of exactly the kind upbringing with the expectations of “reciprocal obligations”.

You ought to stop with your discourse and labels and titles once in a while. Instead, sit down and have a chat with your empathy.